New to Kubernetes? Already a pro? In both cases, tune in to this episode, as we have something for both sides of the aisle.

Kubernetes seems to have won the container orchestration game. Major cloud and PaaS vendors are supporting Kubernetes, and attendance at KubeCon in Dec 2017 skyrocketed. Today we chat with Brian Gracely ( https://twitter.com/bgracely ), Director of Strategy at Red Hat. Brian also co-hosts @PodCTL ( https://twitter.com/PodCTL ) – a podcast dedicated to containers, OpenShift, Kubernetes, and Cloud Native. In our chat we learn where and what Kubernetes is right now, where its heading (e.g: providing better onboard experience with developers, more APIs …), why we have to pay attention to Service Mesh ( http://philcalcado.com/2017/08/03/pattern_service_mesh.html ), and why it is important to have a good cross technology monitoring strategy that supports both your brown field legacy services as well as the green field cloud native. We also enlighten you about what the BWI (Brian Wilson Indicator) is!