On Patreon this week, Erin & Mary Payne talk about The Vow, Season 2 (HBO MAX). In this clip, we dive into episodes 3 & 4, where we see how Nancy Salzman explored ESP work in "curing" Tourette's, and how this work served to falsely legitimize NXIVM. We also prepare for Lauren Salzman to take the stand in court, where she reveals secret information about her personal sexual relationship with Keith Raniere.

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