Dr. Monica Larson: I've heard individuals say, "There's no heaven. "There's no hell." Well, heaven and hell are definitely real; and so what would you say to those individuals who want to debate that there is no heaven and there is no hell.

Warrior Richardson: Well, it's an academic question. I know it has a reality to it; but in the here now on this earth... technically you can have a hell on earth. If there is no heaven...Okay. There is a heaven;...

Dr. Monica Larson: Right.

Warrior Richardson: ...but the focus is misdirected. If they believe there is no heaven or hell...but what they can wrap there mind around is meaning and purpose and fulfillment in their own life here and now.

Dr. Monica Larson: Right.

Warrior Richardson: And you cannot do that without God. So, you can debate heaven and hell and that can be very academic because I can't prove to you that there is no heaven or hell. I can't do that. But you and I and everybody knows "Am I fulfilled?" "Is my life meaningful?" "Why am I doing what I'm doing?" "Should I be doing this?" Can you have the kind of certainty that what you're doing is right? And do you have a joy that surpasses understanding? In spite of all circumstances I have had a joy and during my worse moments when I had nothing was when I was born again and that was the most joyous moment of my life when I had nothing materially.

Dr. Monica Larson: mmm hmmm.

Warrior Richardson: We can debate heaven and hell all we want to and that becomes an academic debate; but it is a reality that without God we are not fulfilled. Everybody can say I am or I'm not fulfilled; but the reality is that without God there is no fulfillment. You're just chasing after something that you hope will fulfill you; but the reality is that it is obvious that it does not. So...