Adam Boulton and guests discuss the tension between scientific advice and political decision making over the coronavirus response.

An uncomfortable dilemma for the Prime Minister as lockdown measures are gradually eased but not enough for all pupils to return to school.

And what about the two-metre social distancing rule? No sign of movement on that despite the impact it will could have on the economy.

Joining Adam this week are the founder and headteacher of Michaela Community School in north west London Katharine Birbalsingh, the science columnist at UnHerd Tom Chivers and Sky's political correspondent Kate McCann