Today, The Two Mikes were honored to speak with Dr. Rick Fisher, one of America's very best experts on China and its thinking and intentions.

Dr. Fisher explained that Elon Musk has put China on its back foot by his production of multiple varieties of reusable spaceships -- especially the Dragon Spacecraft -- and an astounding array of communications satellites.

The great and unexpected accomplishments of Musk and his splendidly talented workers have given the United States a five-year lead on China in the attempt to dominate what Dr. Fisher referred to as the Cis-lunar region -- the area between the earth and the moon -- and the need to control it in order to return the United States to the moon and allow it to begin to populate it and exploit its resources. The Cis-lunar region also is absolutely indispensable to the Chinese Communist Party's intention to dominate all of the earth. Musk has played the Chinese, and Beijing is only just beginning to realize that Musk "has played the Chinese game against them and beat them."

Musk's achievements, Dr. Fisher claimed, are remarkable in that he has lowered the costs of exploiting space and created a brand-new market in space for economic and military innovation. And Musk succeeded without ties to NASA and Pentagon, and, in doing so, he does not appear to have made any significant enemies in America's military-industrial complex. 

Dr. Fisher quoted Jeff Bezos “Did China just gain some new leverage over the public square?” in regard to China stealing Musk’s Tesla’s electric car technology, since Tesla manufactures in China. According to Dr. Fisher “China and Musk are vast competitors in space”.

One of the most profound statements from Dr. Fisher during his opening “Anything we do with China in space, is going to enhance their ability to kill our satellites and dominate us military on earth”. Asserting that we ought not cooperate with the Chinese until we reconcile our differences.

According to Dr. Fisher, Musk was “chosen” to assist the United States in returning to the moon by 2025. The importance of that is, according to Dr. Fisher is that “securing the best strategic and resource positions on the moon is important to begin to dominate the new space economy that many expect will dominate economics growth on earth, by the next century, and will allow the United States to at least deny China dominance of cis-lunar space”.


“Chinese want to replace the American and Western dominated rules-based order on earth. They want the communist party to be in charge of determining a country’s economic growth, its security, and access to space” because “If a country gains access to resources on the moon or on Mars, it can rebuild capabilities on earth; that will allow it to break out of (or defeat) Chinese hegemony on Earth at some point in the future”.

Dr. Fisher outlined that “The Chinese are now finally realizing that they’ve been outplayed” by Elon, referencing that they were only realizing this fact last year when Musk’s Starlink broadband computer satellite network came too close to the Chinese manned space station. Fisher adding that this makes Musk a “threat to the ability to the CCP’s dictatorship to reign over everything, and for the CCP that is a real threat”.



Dr. Fisher writes frequently for the Epoch Times. His current work, and an archive of his past work, is located at the website of the International Assessment and Strategy Center (IASC), https://www.strategycenter.net/



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