In this encore episode of the Psychology Talk Podcast, Kyle and Hersch Wilson discuss his new book, “Firefighter Zen: A Guide for Thriving in Tough Times”. Hersch shares with us how the book came to be, why he decided to structure it in this way, and he explores the stories within and behind the content. Hersch shares with us the Zen-like techniques that allow people like him to stay grounded while navigating danger, comforting others, and coping with their personal response to crisis. Hersch speaks in an approachable manner about learning to be brave, kind, and tough.

Hersch Wilson is a thirty-four year veteran volunteer Firefighter-EMT with the Hondo Fire Department in Santa Fe County, New Mexico. He is also a story-teller, committed to explaining how First Responding can change how we see and experience our own lives. In his “real job” he is a writer, speaker, and consultant. In the past twenty-five years, Hersch has worked extensively with leadership teams from a variety of organizations including Kodak, IBM Japan, Altria, The United States Postal Service, the CIA, Kraft Foods and Baxter Healthcare to name a few. He has co-written three national business best sellers with Larry Wilson, including the award winning, “Playing to Win!: Choosing Growth Over Fear in Work and in Life” and most recently “Firefighter Zen: A Guide for Thriving in Tough Times”.


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