Jill and Catherine discuss the case of Ronnie Wiggs, a Missouri man who has been charged with the murder of his wife, Ellen, while she was in the hospital. We explore the background of dialysis treatment and the financial and emotional burdens it and other health care interventions place on patients, raising questions about the motives and mental state of Ronnie Wiggs and the impact of chronic illness on individuals and their relationships.

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Dialysis Cost With and Without Insurance in 2024 | Mira Health (talktomira.com)
Ronnie Wiggs admits to strangling wife in hospital over medical bills (nypost.com)
Missouri Police Arrests Man Who Admitted to Killing His Ailing Wife Over Medical Bills (msn.com)
Man Says He Killed His Wife Because He Couldn’t Pay Her Medical Bills - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Probable cause affidavit