In this episode, our hosts dive into a crucial yet often overlooked aspect of the cyber industry: mental health. Evan Francen and Michael Kennedy have a candid conversation about the significance of prioritizing mental well-being and share their insights on the importance of leaning on others and fostering a culture of openness within the industry. They emphasize the critical role of leaders in creating a supportive environment where team members feel comfortable sharing their struggles and seeking help when needed. They also explore the concept of truth-telling and transparency in the cyber industry, highlighting how these values not only enhance security practices but also contribute to a healthier work environment. 

**Content Warning** This episode contains some discussions about sensitive mental health topics. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, please seek appropriate support resources.

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