In this episode, Katie speaks with Bryan Greene, the Vice President of Policy Advocacy at the National Association of Realtors. Bryan has spent over two decades at the forefront of fair housing policy, serving as the highest-ranking official in the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development's Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity. Bryan shares his powerful personal story of growing up in the highly segregated borough of Queens, New York, and how those experiences shaped his commitment to fighting housing discrimination. He provides sobering insights into the cascading harms caused by discriminatory housing practices, from limiting choice and opportunity to suppressing wealth accumulation in minority communities The conversation dives deep into the historical policies and systemic racism that created residential segregation patterns still evident today. Bryan advocates for greater public education on how recent housing policies are the most likely cause of the racial wealth gap in America. Looking ahead, Bryan outlines potential solutions like increasing housing supply, down payment assistance, rental credit in mortgage lending, and even mounting a "Marshall Plan" to address the nationwide housing shortage. He has written extensively on these issues for publications like the Smithsonian and Washington Post. This insightful discussion showcases Bryan's decades of experience and passion for dismantling discriminatory housing practices and creating truly inclusive communities.