Carol Thaler and Christine Hockman, from Great Lakes Biomimicry, our very first guests of season 2, join us to talk about the creativity that is biomimicry. Heck, even President Obama plans on leveraging biomimicry for his library. We all know by now that governments are leveraging the power of biomimicry. Interesting stuff.

Jim knows all about Mount Vernon, New York, the Grateful Dead, Phish, and the fact that Mount Vernon is looking for clowns for their schools. Yep, listen...

Note: For more information re Great Lakes Biomimicry, and the fundraiser they mention, visit www.glbiomimicry.org.