I am so thrilled to bring you the conversation for this episode! I got a chance to catch up with my friend, world renown painter, Isabel Samaras. Years before we ever met I discovered her work through art magazines like Juxtapoz and Hi Fructose. I was blown away by Isabel’s work because she’s not just an incredible painter but she’s someone who has a take on popular culture, romance and humor that is all her own.
There's literally too much to go over with Isabel as far as monsters and pop culture characters. But we get into our love for The Bride of Frankenstein and how we as artists can use imagery to add to popular stories and even give our beloved fictitious characters a more fulfilling life. 
Apologies to A24, the movie we were talking about is The Hole in the Ground, not A Hole in the Woods or whatever Ben said.
Here's some heady subjects for you artists: Are you making art you think an audience wants or creating what excites you and bringing people along for the ride? And do you have “Kulaks” in your portfolio?
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This is episode is brought to you by Ben's Shadowplay digital brushes and the Cheap Chills Etsy shop. 
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Music for the Cheap Chills Podcast by Badger Meyer.


**Also discussed word dump: 
Shirley Jackson, Kathryn Bigelow, Ana Lily Amirpour, a girl walks home alone at night, Batman's love life