In this episode, Ginny travels to the Bay Area to inteview, kambo practitioners, Steven Alexander Dumain and Juan Jose. Ginny assisted in training these practitioners and has a heart felt connections\ with both. Juan works with Ginny in training new practitioners. Steve and Juan will talk about their training, their kambo practices and how they are continuing to grow with kambo. They will also tell of how they were called to become practitioners and why they chose the IAKP for their training.