Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson welcome NBA champion turned media sensation Kendrick Perkins for a raw and unfiltered conversation about his journey from the hardwood to becoming one of ESPN's most prominent voices.

Big Perk opens up about his new multi-year ESPN contract and takes us behind the scenes of his typical NBA season week, sharing the screen with legends like Stephen A. Smith and Pat McAfee. Never one to hold back, Perk addresses recent controversies including the Celtics Ring Night drama and being called out by Draymond Green and Baron Davis over his Kawhi Leonard retirement take.

The conversation goes deep on the current state of the NBA, from the Wemby vs. Chet debate to Paolo Banchero's rise and the evolution of the center position. Perk breaks down international basketball development, the AAU scene, and shares his bold takes on Giannis’ status with the Bucks, Jamal Murray’s slow start, and Anthony Davis's MVP chances.

From crowning the NBA's greatest scorer to his Finals predictions and even touching on the Dallas Cowboys and Young Thug, this episode showcases Kendrick Perkins at his most candid, delivering the kind of straight-no-chaser basketball talk that only All The Smoke can bring.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.