We should deal with the smallest problems people have. In that way, we can make them understand what Abdullah Öcalan is talking about. In our small village, we're 800 people - and we are working like that. We have a democratic, grassroots movement. Instead of going backwards, as most rural parts in Sweden do, we have developed our little village. We own our own fire department, grocery store, a lot of houses; we have a hostel, and apartments to rent.