Many widow/ers know how it feels to be left unsupported. To have a sense that presence and comfort is lacking from those we thought would be there for us. But how many of us have really delved into this with people who we think may have let us down?

Rosie speaks to Toby - one of Hughie's best friends - about the challenge and nuances of being a figure of solace to someone whose partner has died, when they themselves are grieving that person too.

WARNING: This podcast deals with themes of death, sex and contains explicit language.