Brandon and Andy sit with Jon Russelburg and our buddy "Newman" to talk about Jon's upcoming musical projects, dogs, and why he hated the Avengers: Age of Ultron.

We also debate why everyone seems to hate Brandon's beloved flame top custom Telecaster, how Jon customized his forgotten junk Squire to finally acquire the sound he'd been looking for, and if Dave Grohl is right that indie artists are afraid of "selling out" to the point of avoiding commercial success altogether.

Jon also performs "The Poet," which is one of Josiah Murphy's favorite songs ever.

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PATRON-EXCLUSIVE CONTENT: Jon Russelburg performs "Bully," a previously unreleased track from an upcoming LP release. (https://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=2679852&rf=243624).

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