Paternal power or "the sort of rule and jurisdiction" that parents have over their children is rarely discussed in books of political philosophy. Locke was one of the first to discuss it mainly because he wanted to draw a later distinction between paternal and political power. But Locke did much more than that. He made specific declarations about what rights parents had and what reciprocal obligations children possessed in the state of nature. In this episode, distinctions will also be made about the more radical views of parent-child relationships proposed by Thomas Hobbes (1640) and much later by Herbert Spencer (1851).