We’re staring into the abyss of 2009’s The Fourth Kind to see what will gaze back. While the film is celebrating its 15th anniversary we are joined by Andy & Lou, the hosts of the podcast, Nothing’s Off the Table. In this episode, we’ll talk about everything from where we all stand on non-human intelligence, conspiracy theories, mental health & more. Andy & Lou host their podcast live every Friday on YouTube and Facebook at 8pm EST & 7pm CST.

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Abyss Gazing: A Horror Podcast is a production of Victims and Villains is written by Josh “Captain Nostalgia” Burkey (& produced by), Mark Moore & Billy Tabor. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme), & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms).

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