The broadcast media industry is abuzz over the availability from December 6 in the U.S. and Canada of "Never Ride a Rollercoaster Upside Down," a first-person tale from Emmis Communications Founder and CEO Jeff Smulyan that dives into deep detail about his experiences running a company that at one time owned radio and television stations across the country.

Smulyan first offered an exclusive glimpse into what's in the book at Forecast 2023 in a conversation with Juliet Huddy. Now, he's shared more about his long and fascinating story with Media Insultant co-hosts Jackson Weaver and Keith Samuels.

Weaver and Samuels offered excerpts of their chat for use in the latest InFOCUS Podcast, presented by dot.FM.