OPB's Conrad Wilson reports on the first witnesses to take the stand in the Malheur refuge trial: Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward and a man who was at the refuge on the day the armed protestors began their occupation.

We also hear about the testimony of a lieutenant sheriff who said one occupier encouraged him to "remove Sheriff Ward by any means necessary, including death."

Wilson joins OPB Producer Dave Blanchard for a special mid-week "This Land Is Our Land" to share what he heard.

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