Most disciple-making gets stuck because people hear a lot or train through tools but rarely see a life they can actually imitate. In this episode, Mark breaks down why Jesus didn’t mainly train through more explanation, but through withness, exposure, and real obedience in motion. He shows how immersion clears the fog, builds courage, and helps normal believers picture what following Jesus can actually look like in ordinary places.

If you’ve ever felt the gap between knowing disciple-making language and actually doing it, this one gets down to brass tacks.

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