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16 JUN. 2026 · In conflict zones and hostile environments, the gap between cyber and physical security is not an inconvenience. It is a vulnerability that gets people hurt. Jack McKenna has watched organizations spend money on tools, hire service providers, and still miss the threat because nobody in the building had built a relationship across the aisle.
NGO security management and humanitarian aid security have never demanded more from practitioners. The organizations doing the most critical work in international development safety are operating with siloed teams, undertrained staff, and a false sense of protection from tools that were never designed to catch the threats they actually face. Duty of care is not just a policy commitment. Understanding how to close that gap is no longer optional.
Jack McKenna is President and CEO of Prescient, a tech-enabled digital intelligence, investigation, and risk advisory firm at the intersection of cybersecurity, corporate security, and intelligence. Amaury Cooper, a former Prescient client and NGO security practitioner, leads this conversation from the field perspective, pressing Jack on what organizations can actually do with limited resources in complex environments.
Key Takeaways
Set up basic social media alerting for your organization name even without a dedicated security team, because unsophisticated monitoring is still better than none.
Threat signals online are rarely explicit. Watch for negative sentiment building over time, coded imagery, emoji and GIF usage, and slang terms rather than waiting for a direct statement.
NGO security management requires someone with a named responsibility for physical security. If it is not in anyone's job description, it will not get done when it matters.
In hostile environments, assume surveillance and work your security posture backward from that assumption. VPNs and Signal help but do not make you safe if a hostile intelligence service is targeting you.
Converged tabletop exercises covering both physical and cyber scenarios are one of the most practical tools any humanitarian aid security team can implement right now.
Jack McKenna said, "Assume that you're basically broadcasting where you are," on operating in environments with hostile surveillance infrastructure.
Jack McKenna said, "The relationship is the biggest word," on what physical security practitioners must build with their IT and cyber counterparts before a crisis hits.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
01:42 How to assess whether your organization is being threatened
02:48 Setting up basic social media monitoring for NGOs
03:42 Risk assessments and point-in-time chatter reviews
04:07 Cultural nuance, emojis, GIFs, and online threat signals
05:07 AI limitations in detecting coded threats and imagery
06:14 Why bad actors know they are being monitored
06:52 Closed forums and indirect threat communication
07:53 Should cyber and physical security be converged
08:51 Identifying who is responsible for physical security
09:37 Avoiding duplicative security spending
10:10 The fusion cell model and overlapping risk spheres
11:18 How physical security practitioners can learn cyber basics
11:58 Why marketing and comms monitoring is insufficient for security
12:50 Using AI tools to self-educate on cybersecurity
13:36 Stop saying you are not a technical person
14:15 What NGOs in austere environments can do proactively
14:59 Data ownership and backup access in low-connectivity environments
15:45 How personal social media activity creates professional risk
16:23 What security focal points on the ground should watch for
17:12 Treating all unwanted communications as suspicious
17:43 Converged tabletop exercises for physical and cyber scenarios
18:11 Including IT in crisis management and device lockdown protocols
19:02 How tabletops unearth duty of care gaps
19:55 The USB drive scenario and why the NGO sector is uniquely at risk
20:17 Burner phones, wiped devices, and travel to hostile environments
21:10 VPNs, Signal, and their real limitations
21:35 Mobile device management and limiting compromise blast radius
22:32 Which environments carry the highest surveillance risk
23:14 Assuming surveillance regardless of geography
24:00 Location data, marketing IDs, and what hostile states can access
24:38 Operating in extremely hostile environments
25:01 Does a VPN slow things down
25:28 Pearls of wisdom for security focal points in the field
25:58 Build relationships with IT before you need them
27:11 Closing and acknowledgment of the Robert McPherson Fellowship
Connect with Jack McKenna
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-mckenna-3a301345/
Website: https://www.prescient.com/
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12 JUN. 2026 · In conflict zones, a single name in a breached database can be enough for a hostile government to identify and target a local partner. Jack McKenna has seen it happen. This is not a hypothetical. It is the threat landscape NGOs are operating in right now, and most have no idea how exposed they really are.
NGO security management and humanitarian aid security have never been more urgent. The organizations doing the most critical work in the world are also the most targeted and the least resourced when it comes to cybersecurity. Understanding where those threats live and what any organization can do about them is no longer optional.
Jack McKenna is President and CEO of Prescient, a tech enabled digital intelligence, investigation, and risk advisory firm at the intersection of cybersecurity, corporate security, and intelligence. He also serves on the board of District 4 Labs, a Prescient spinoff building OSINT data products. Amaury Cooper, a former Prescient client himself, sat down with Jack to break down the real threat landscape facing NGOs and international development organizations.
Key Takeaways
In hostile environments, assume your location and communications are visible and work your security posture backward from that assumption.
NGOs are among the most targeted organizations in the world and operate with a fraction of the security resources available to corporations.
Threat actors have moved off mainstream platforms and into closed Telegram forums and Discord servers where traditional monitoring does not reach.
A single name linking a local partner to an international NGO in a breached database can be enough for a hostile government to target them.
Least privilege access and data destruction policies are not advanced concepts. They are basic discipline, and most organizations are not doing them.
Jack McKenna said, "In many ways they're the most threatened, but they're the most under resourced," referring to NGOs and their cybersecurity posture.
Jack McKenna said, "Assume that it could become publicly available someday," on the reality that any data submitted to any platform is potentially exposed.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and welcome
01:00 Jack McKenna and Prescient overview
02:23 The current threat landscape for NGOs
03:56 How threats moved from social media to closed Telegram and Discord forums
05:09 Infiltrating closed forums, personas, AI, language, and slang
06:36 How investigators identify and track threat actors
08:20 Breached government databases and international attribution
09:47 Bellingcat, open source intelligence, and what NGOs can learn
11:01 The ICRC breach, White Helmets, and real world NGO cases
12:39 What NGOs can do, least privilege access and data destruction
14:52 How breached data puts local partners in physical danger
17:19 AI agents and data access risks
18:24 Using breached data to unmask threat actors
19:29 District 4 Labs, Bellingcat, and free OSINT support for nonprofits
Connect with Jack McKenna
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-mckenna-3a301345/
Website: https://www.prescient.com/
27 DIC. 2024 · Welcome to INSSA Insights, where we explore global security issues. In this episode, "Hostage US," host Amaury Cooper interviews Liz Cathcart, Executive Director of Hostage US, a nonprofit supporting families of Americans taken hostage or wrongfully detained abroad.
Liz discusses the organization’s crucial work, including providing free services to families facing emotional and financial strain. She covers three key types of hostage situations and shares strategies for NGOs and families navigating these crises. Liz also highlights the importance of legal frameworks and proactive policies to support employees at risk.
Tune in to learn about the invaluable role of Hostage US in offering legal, emotional, and practical support to families in need.
Takeaways
- Types of Hostage Situations
- Statistics and Notable Cases
- Preparation and Strategy for NGOs
- Support Services by Hostage US
- Resources for Families and Returnees
Quotes
"True support begins with emotional care — ensuring families know they are never alone, with a trusted, confidential ally by their side.” - Liz Cathcart
"Reintegration should support both the person and the organization, filling any gaps in available resources." - Liz Cathcart
Featured in this Episode
Liz Cathcart
Executive Director of Hostage US
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethcathcart/
Website: http://www.hostageus.org/
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
04:31 - The Importance of Emotional Support, Confidentiality, and Financial Challenges
06:45 - Hostage US Assists Families with Financial and Legal Challenges
12:19 - State-Hostage Taking: Addressing Wrongful Detentions and Negotiations
16:31 - Updating Employee Details and Establishing Power of Attorney
17:51 - Understanding Power of Attorney and Privacy Act Waiver
22:10 - Balancing Family Support with Organizational Responsibilities
24:43 - Managing Initial Crisis Communication with Families
27:42 - Hostage US Website: A Top Resource for Hostage-Related Issues
31:33 - "Rope in a Prayer": A Balanced Perspective on Hostage Situations
34:32 - Lily Cathcart Leads Hostage US; Available Resources for Families and NGOs
34:42 - Outro
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13 JUN. 2024 · Welcome to another episode of INSSA Insights. In this episode, we delve into the pivotal role of insurance in NGO security risk management. Experts Lisa Oliveri and Joe Gleeson explore how insurance safeguards international development and humanitarian aid organizations in high-risk areas. From medical emergencies to specialized policies like kidnap ransom coverage, discover how insurance enhances organizational resilience. Uncover the collaboration required between organizations and insurers, the importance of knowledgeable brokers, and ethical considerations.
Join us as we provide insights on leveraging insurance for seamless crisis response in challenging environments.
Takeaways
- Significance of Insurance in High-Risk Zones
- Tailoring Insurance for Humanitarian Aid Community
- Collaboration Between Institutions and Brokers
Quotes
"Insurance anticipates and covers the costs of challenges in international development and humanitarian work.” - Joe Gleeson
“Embrace consultation in times of crisis or security, where even a 'no' can lead to undiscovered paths. - Lisa Oliveri
Featured in this Episode
Joe Gleeson
Director for Network Solutions at Intel
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-gleeson-35644213/
Lisa Oliveri, CPP, PCI
Global Safety and Security Director | Strategic Risk Management Leader | Board Member
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisamoliveri/
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
01:37 - Diverse Travel Risk Policies
11:02 - Identifying Risks for Tailored Insurance Programs
13:48 - Insurance for International Employees
18:33 - Key Details for Understanding Insurance
20:20 - Resource Requests and Broker Benefits
25:11 - Effective Policy Coordination
27:08 - Enhancing Risk Management by Insurers
30:16 - The Vital Role of Trusted Brokers
33:10 - Ensuring Support Equality
36:34 - Conclusion
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12 MAR. 2024 · Welcome to another episode of INSSA Insights. In this episode, we explore the realm of NGO security and humanitarian aid, focusing on the INSSA-CSD Excellence Awards. Host Amaury Cooper engages with distinguished guests, including Ebe Brons, CEO of the Center For Safety and Development, Rising Star Award recipient Mahmoud Al Iskandarani, and Outstanding Achiever Award winner Emanuely Okongo. The episode highlights the awards' importance, the future of NGO security, and the impactful contributions of rising talents in the field.
Join us for an in-depth look at the changing dynamics of humanitarian aid and security risk management.
Takeaways
- Identifying and Nurturing Talent for Frontline Security
- Future of NGO Security
- Attracting Diversity to NGO Security Field
Quotes
"To prepare for the fast-approaching future, people must get training, education, and mentoring." - Ebe Brons"We have young people, and it's important to provide them with the necessary skills tailored to our operational environment."- Emmanuely Okongo
"More training in humanitarian law is vital. We stay impartial in conflicts to help those in need, a core commitment when joining humanitarian organizations." - Mahmoud Al Iskandarani
Featured in this Episode
Ebe Brons
Director, Centre for Safety and Development
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebe-brons-63280310/
Emmanuely Okongo
Security and Access Coordinator for Global Surge
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmanuely-okongo-6b746221a/
Mahmoud Al Iskandarani
Safety and Security Consultant
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mahmoud-al-iskandarani-995134119/
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
03:41 - Team Gratitude for the Rising Star Award
07:37 - Certification and Skill Recognition in NGO Security
09:55 - Enhancing NGO Security Expertise with Travel and Training
11:38 - Advocating for Diversity with Tangible Organizational Practices
16:16 - The Holistic Mission of NGO Security Professionals
17:52 - Avi's Insights: Necessity for Heightened Focus on Humanitarian Law
21:19 - Fostering Generosity, Skill Development, and Resolving Global Conflicts
24:40 - Conclusion
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22 FEB. 2023 · Welcome to another episode of INSSA Insights. In this show today, We featured Amaury Cooper, Board Member and Treasurer, at INSSA, Joe Gleason, Director at Global Risk Management, and lastly, Ben Longworth, the Director of Security Services at On Call International. In the episode, they discuss the top security challenges facing NGOs in 2023 and beyond. From the impact of climate change on security to geopolitical tensions between major powers like the USA, China, and Russia, we explore a range of issues that are affecting NGOs globally. We also examine the specific challenges faced by NGOs operating in regions such as South Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America, and the strategies that NGO security managers can use to manage risks in the age of the pandemic. Join us as we delve into the complexities of NGO security management and the resources that can help organizations better navigate these challenges.
Takeaways
The most influential and impactful in managing security for NGOs.
Security Challenges faced in South Asia, Africa, and Latin America
NGO Strategies for Climate Change and Security Intersection
Challenges Faced by NGOs Operating in Ukraine
The pandemic effect and the status around the world
Geopolitical tensions around the world
The resources that will help NGO security managers
Quotes
"Geopolitical tensions are rising, and if governments turn to Chinese or Russian aid instead of Western aid, NGOs may face fewer restraints." - Joe
"The COVID impact in 2022 is very interesting for NGOs. More on the program side, certainly, of course, we're referencing the risk to employees and personnel. But it's just interesting to see organizations might be able to put that focus back on, and there is a change in focus in a lot of these markets based on what was the strain on the healthcare system." - Ben
"In 2023, we'll see major changes in how organizations manage risks unless something changes dramatically." - Joe
Featured in this Episode
Amaury Cooper
Board Member/Treasurer, INSSA
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amaurycooper
Joe Gleason
Director, Global Risk Management
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-gleason-907a325
Benjamin Longworth
Director of Security Services, On Call International
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-longworth-7b200b40
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:23 Most influential and impactful in NGO security management
04:20 Issues in the South Asia
06:20 Security and climate change
07:41 Challenges Faced by NGOs Operating in Ukraine
12:48 Are we in the post-pandemic
15:56 Security threats in Africa
19:36 Geopolitical tensions between the USA-China-Russia
25:47 A Focus on Tensions in the Middle East
28:12 The challenges and flash points in Latin America
32:05 Managing Risk in the Age of Pandemic
38:22 The lessons learned from the previous years
41:45 The NGO Security Management for 2023 and beyond
46:36 The resources that will help NGO security managers
50:48 Conclusion
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20 JUL. 2022 · Welcome to another episode of INSSA Insights. In this show today, we will have a more central topic on our great women in the field of NGO security. We invited Melanie Murphy, the Physical Security Director for Human Rights Watch, Lisa Oliveri, the Director of Global Risk Management, Security, and Operations for National Democratic Institute, and lastly Javeria Malik, the Global Safety and Security Lead at ActionAid/INSSA Chair. They each share their stories of how they started in NGO Security management. They also share the challenges they've faced as women in the sector as these have been male-dominated fields. Moreover, they give some examples where women have some advantages in the field and how these sectors have been shifting towards a female-friendly environment. Lastly, they each give some tips and advice to the audience and give some knowledge about the upcoming challenges the sector will face.
Key Takeaways
Our Guests' stories on how they started in the NGO Security Sector
The challenges of our guests as women in the NGO security sector
The advantages of being a woman in the NGO Security Sector
The shift towards the women-friendly environment in the past decades in the NGO Security sector
Advice and Tips from our Guests to our fellow Audiences
The challenges the NGO security sector will face in terms of safety and security in the upcoming years
Quotes
"I can be tough however I prefer that people will see me as an approachable person, working alongside them because security management is about intimate conversations and details with people about their fears and vulnerabilities." - Melanie
"We have amazing women that support and make sure we're, diversifying our thoughts and approaches as much as possible." - Lisa
"One of the advantages of being a woman in this field is that I don't appear to be a threat and challenge their authority which able me to negotiate our way through various tensions." - Javeria
Featured in this Episode
Melanie Murphy
Physical Security Director for Human Rights Watch
Linkedin: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/melanie-murphy-she-her-7a25403b
Website: https://www.hrw.org
Lisa Oliveri
Director of Global Risk Management, Security, and Operations for National Democratic Institute
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisamoliveri
Profile: https://www.ndi.org/people/Lisa_Oliveri
Javeria Malik
Global Safety and Security Lead at ActionAid/INSSA Chair
Linkedin: https://za.linkedin.com/in/javmalik
Profile/Website: https://inssa.org/javeria-malik
Amaury Cooper
Board Member /Treasurer, INSSA
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amaurycooper
Profile/Website: https://inssa.org/amaury-t-cooper
Words to our Sponsors
Thank you To the Robert McPherson Fellowship for its generous support and donation, helping to make this podcast possible
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:53 How Melanie, Lisa, and Jav started in the NGO Security Management
06:13 The challenges as a female in the field of NGO security
10:23 The advantages of a woman in the field of NGO security
16:40 The changes in the field for women over the decade
22:52 Opening up for women in the NGO security sector
29:07 Pieces of Advice from our guests to all women who want a career in the NGO security sector
34:09 General challenges that the NGO security sector faces in regards to safety and security
41:52 Our guest's summer reading lists
44:11 Conclusion
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21 DIC. 2021 · Key Takeaways:
0:00 Intro
1:33 Robert shares some of the reasons that made him decide to write his book
5:57 Robert talks about some of the similarities between the military, the marine and the International Development Humanitarian Aid sectors
9:42 Robert talks about his transition from a marine to being humanitarian worker and how it was for him
13:55 Robert talks about the lessons he learned while in the military and the advice he would give to people who want to move from the military space into the NGO space
17:57 Robert talks about how it was for him developing protocols and procedures that he had to do in policies for Safety and Security coming from the military
21:26 Robert explains if the NGO’s take Safety and Security serious
24:46 Robert talks about what he feels the NGOs are still lacking when it comes to safety and security and what they are also excelling at
39:00 Robert talks about the geographic areas that he is most concerned about when it comes to NGO safety and security
43:54 Robert talks about what he sees is the future of NGO Safety and Security with all the knowledge that he has about it
50:44 Robert talks about the advice he would give to people who are considering a career in the NGO security space
Books Mentioned:
https://www.robertseamusmacpherson.com/stewards-of-humanity
Shows Mentioned:
https://inssa.org/
https://www.un.org/en/
http://www.marines.mil/
http://www.peacecorps.gov/
https://usnwc.edu/
https://www.ncolcoe.army.mil/
http://www.aidforum.org/directory/the-international-ngo-safety-security-association-inssa/
https://www.usaid.gov/who-we-are/organization/bureaus/bureau-humanitarian-assistance
https://gisf.ngo/resource/can-you-get-sued-legal-liability-of-international-humanitarian-aid-organisations-towards-their-staff/
Quotes Mentioned:
“The greatest enthusiasm from the women and men I associated with on the Marine Corps side is when they dropped into events where they were there to assist the humanitarian community rather than make war.”
“Practice leadership by example.”
“Always be humble.”
“You got to step back and learn how everything works”
“By 2050, half of the population, or half of the nation state of Bangladesh is going to be underwater.”
“There is never enough.”
Guests Social Media Links:
Website: https://www.robertseamusmacpherson.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertseamusmacpherson/
Email: rsm@robertseamusmacpherson.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robertseamusmacpherson
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22 SEP. 2021 · Key Takeaways:
0:00 Intro
1:10 Michael talks about how he got into the international development and humanitarian aid sector and specifically the NGO security space
3:49 Michael shares an incident that occurred in his career in international development and how it influenced his path to NGO security
9:30 Michael explains if the way that NGOs practice security management has matured or if it’s still languishing
12:31 Michael talks about what differentiates the security management in the NGO sector from other sectors
15:25 Michael talks about the current state of security management around the world, within the NGO community and how mature it is
18:31 Michael talks about the acceptance of the importance of security risk management in the NGO sector both nonprofits and for-profit
22:51 Michael talks about the importance of having information analysis and analysts and how it will help security risk management mature
26:13 Michael explains if organizations are integrating the security risk management personnel with analysts and implementers in the program designs
28:55 Michael talks about the study they did on acceptance, the core principles of acceptance, and what organizations should do to implement acceptance
31:46 Michael talks more about the acceptance model that they did during their study and the people that they did it with
39:06 Michael talks about World Humanitarian Day and the significance it has on the NGO’s security or humanitarian security
42:55 Michael talks about the current biggest threats to aid workers in terms of security operations and what they should do
47:09 Michael shares his thought on the future threats that might impact the security operations of the security agencies
49:21 Michael talks about the most important lessons that he has learned over the course of his career in NGO security management
54:13 Michael shares some of the resources that he feels are essential for people who are interested in NGO security risk management
56:07 Michael talks about INSSA, what it is and what was the force or the need that led to the formation of INSSA and its initiatives
1:04:42 Michael talks about the future of INSSA and where he is hoping to see it go
1:05:47 Michael talks about where he sees the NGO security sector going as a whole
Books Mentioned:
Operational Security Management in Violent Environments: https://books.google.com/books/about/Operational_Security_Management_in_Viole.html?id=Bb6FAAAACAAJ&source=kp_book_description
Never Split the Difference: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26156469-never-split-the-difference
Player Piano: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9597.Player_Piano
Shows Mentioned:
http://acceptanceresearch.org/
Peace Corp: https://www.peacecorps.gov/
GIZ: https://www.giz.de/en/html/index.html
Save the Children: https://www.savethechildren.net/
OFDA: https://www.usaid.gov/who-we-are/organization/bureaus/bureau-democracy-conflict-and-humanitarian-assistance/office-us
ICRC: https://www.icrc.org/en
GPRA: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/omb/mgmt-gpra/index-gpra
ISO 31,000: https://www.iso.org/iso-31000-risk-management.html
USAID: https://www.usaid.gov/
GISF: https://gisf.ngo/
CRS: https://www.crs.org/
Lockton International: https://www.locktoninternational.com/gb/homepage
Quotes Mentioned:
“Duty of care is an employer's responsibility to put reasonable measures in place for foreseeable risks.”
“Using staff safety as your indicator of success becomes less of a true indicator of effective security risk management as opposed to accessing vulnerable populations in the most complex environments.”
“No matter which approach you take to security risk management, it all requires an understanding of the context and identifying and analyzing key stakeholders.”
“People with good analytical skills need to be valued.”
“Acceptance is as much a programmatic initiative as it is a security risk management initiative, and it works best when it's done together.”
“Be propositional; give somebody a possible solution to the problem.”
“Build on your assets and be propositional on how to carry forward.”
Guests Social Media Links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-o-neill-a0b36441/
Website: https://www.oneillparagon.solutions/
Company website: https://inssa.org/
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This podcast explores the wide range of topics affecting how the international development and humanitarian assistance sectors implement safety and security across their organizations and the environments in which they operate. From interviews with security professionals both inside and outside the international development and humanitarian assistance sectors to conversations with regional and country specific experts, listeners will gain key insights on best practices and thematic knowledge to help build their capacities and careers.
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