Welcome to Wellthy Living Conversation episode 69 with guest Nathalie Martinek.

Nathalie is an ex-systems biology and cancer researcher turned Narcissism Hacker, consultant and independent medical culture researcher. As a highly attuned observer Nathalie became acutely alive to the fact that toxic behaviours metastasise, just like the tumours she once studied. As a global consultant for leaders, investors and executives in healthcare, tech and related industries, she specialises in helping individuals and teams navigate professional relationships that feature narcissistic behaviours. Her clients develop skills and strategies to successfully negotiate with corporate psychopaths and prevent psychological, financial or reputational harm.

Many women struggle or have struggled with aggression and bullying by other women. Actually stats show that of the bullying cases lead by women in the workplace, 80% of those cases are woman on woman.

In this episode we explore lateral ( women on women) aggression & bullying in the workplace. What is it? How it plays out? Reasons it happens? How to recognise it’s happening? Why some women ( and men) deny it’s existence, why it even matters? and whether we can stop it, if so how?

This topic really challenges myths about women and sisterhood, it's a big, insightful and possibly confronting conversation.

0:00 - 3:40 - Intro
5:10 - Main themes that emerged when women shared their eperiences with Nathalie
9:45 - Role men play in stoking the fire
12:20 - What's the catayst?
16:00 - Self awareness, the difficulty in becoming more self aware and why blaming is easier
18:40 - Impact of social programming and role of "authority"
22:20 - Assimilation and masking of feminine leadership qualities
23:30 - Instituations - who established them in the forst place
24:30 - Women exiting leadership roles
25:15 - What the cost on a womens wellbeing if she chooses to continue to climb the ranks or remian in leadership roles
30.05 - 49:00 - Denial
49:00 - wellness in unwell workplaces is often a fantsasy
56:00 - Importance of building healthy relationships and relating dynamics
58:00-Barrier sof trusting relationships
1:01:00 - Risks for instiutions to show accountability
1:03:00 - Example: lateral agression in Nursing, Rite of passage and initiation process
1:05:00 - Personal accountability, changing own behaviour, boundaries, self awareness
1:07:00 - Insecutiry at the root of bullying
1:08:55 - What can be done, practical suggestions and tools
1:19:09 - Summary and conclusion

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#66 Burnout
#15 Embracing the ego


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To find out more about my services you can visit my website www.wellthyliving.com.au or connect with me on all social media channels.

To learn more about Nathalie you can visit her website - drnataliemartinek.com or subscribe her incredible Hacking Narcissism publication on Substack.


Until next time remember connection is medicine.