In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during challenging times, and the importance of creating spaces for risk-taking and personal growth. We talk about calling through the lens of prepostions: called by, called to, called with, and called away from as a bonus. 

Some of the people referenced in this episode:

• Octavia Butler
• John O'Donohue
• St. Francis of Assisi

Chapters00:00 Exploring Vocation and Nature
05:51 The Call: Understanding Our Purpose
11:59 Identifying What We Are Called Toward
18:00 The Importance of Beauty and Play in Life
24:06 The Power of Shared Experiences
25:33 Exploring the Concept of Calling
26:55 Biblical Figures as Guides
28:09 Understanding Ecclesiastes
30:49 Life's Meaning Through Mortality
31:43 Influential Historical Figures
32:58 The Impact of Fiction on Theology
36:40 Contemporary Influences in Faith
38:54 The Call to Stay and Serve
40:11 Finding Beauty in Change